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While i know Needle peak is currently out of the question for us, i would like to inquire about the difficulty of doing the the trail to Flatiron ( over-nighting at tasty lake). My group consists of Me, my Guy and our two kids., 7 and 1. Since i packed the little guy on my front and carry gear on my back, it limits what we can travel in terms of boulder fields and scrambles ( the Joffre boulder field was passable but about as challenging as i would consider safe- the rest of the trail while steep in places was fine, even if i did end up backing down a few places). We would like to explore the Coquihalla area, and are open to other suggestions as well. Any info, details etc. are greatly appreciated :)
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at 4pm Sep 04, 2011
Echoing Ahmad, the hardest part of the Flatiron trail is right at the beginning, as some parts there are steep. However, it's a forest trail and the biggest obstacle you might encounter is a fallen tree. Once the trail opens up into the subalpine (an hour or so from the road) it's relatively easy the rest of the way to the Flatiron. There are a few places where one could have a very bad fall on the way to the flatiron, but they can all be easily avoided with a small detour. Note that there are no facilities at all at Tasty Lake, not even an outhouse, it's pure wilderness.

Illal Meadows is similar (no facilities either), but the trail to get there is much longer than the Flatiron. If you're staying for a longer period (three or four days for instance) there is much more to explore in the Illal Meadows region. There aren't much in the way of trails, just one or two really, but the terrain is open and you can amble where you like most of the time. A 4x4 isn't needed, it would only reduce the trip up by an hour or so at best.
at 8pm Sep 03, 2011
Hi Nicky, there is about 250m steep section in the forest to gain the ridge (something like the Grouse Grind) but I think it is doable with care. On the other hand, there are fewer boulders to cross and in that sense it is better than Joffre Lakes. The other area that you may consider is Illal meadows www.livetrails.com/index.php but I haven't been there and am not sure if you need 4x4 car to get to the trailhead. I hope you will enjoy your trip.
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